you all say that abimanyu was killed by unrighteous means ... but the truth is during the war .when chakravuha was formed by kauravas arjuna was not present to penetrate it.. so pandavas ask abhimanyu to do the job .. he says that he knows only how to get in .. he does not know how to come out .. so the pandavas assure him that when he penetrates the vuha they will cover him.... relying on them abhimanyu penetrates the vuha and the pandavas fail to protect him.. so he was naturally surrounded by enemies .. at this point he was alone present between the kauravas .. having being outnumbered he was killed....... there is no adharma done by karna or guru dhrone in killing abhimanyu ,it was pandavas carelessness which got him killed, i think karna was best during the virat yudh he fight without dijaya dhanush n also he was undefeatable tht time coz he have cawaz instead arjun used the sambohan astras which make all unconscious regarding gandharva capturing the duryodhana karna was weapons less tht time n also they r in full entertainment ragarding who is best karna wid a solo power has got digbijaya but whisch is possible only wid combination of whole pandavas simply karna is best. Because if Draupadi does not reject Karna, then people do not sympathise with Karna. But I thought it should have been Pandu who should have opted to behave like Bharat and say, let my brother wear the crown, and let me be his eyes, ears, and strength. tell me honestly, would you respect a woman who consistently bitches and argues.. who seeks revenge on everyone.. who makes fun of blind people.. who thinks she is all that? PDF articles by pilot baba throws more light. So you see, Draupadi was considered as nothing but a pawn by someone who ought to have been her father .2. Bheem? It further establishes the fact that if Karna failed in the task, then there is no point of Draupadi rejecting him saying that he is a Sutaputra. i do accept the pranav had said.its truth.insulting such noble person what punishment should get them. Latter you came to know that woman who rejected you became the wife of five husbands... How you will feel. I truly agree,even kunti knew karn was her son, she never convinced pandav not to insult saying sutputra.though karn was alleged to involve in saying draupadi a VAISHYA but non of the pandav were disagree on the saying of draupadi a suputra to karn..How karn left the compony of duryodhan who had given a respect and honor in the adverse aura..Karn never joined duryodhan intentionally,, when all rejected him even he was meant to deserve all equivalent to Arjuna.. On the other hand Pandavas were also good human beings and followed path of righteousness. उग्रायुधो बलाकी च कनकायुर्विरोचनः ||२|| However Krishna was Lord....no one can ever be compared to him.Well..I can go on forever about Lord Krishna and Kaunteya Karna...but I guess you get my point XD, and yeah...duryodhan kept karna out of the yagya where he invited pandavas....He knew Karna would never approve. But we should also learn that despite get insulted, we must keep our mind calm. So what on earth are these Brahmins doing here ) .... At this time , the wise Krishna somehow justifies the rationale and gives a lecture about things that only he can give .. and in short buys the argument in favour of Arjuna .. and he won .. That said , where was ethics & moral rights practiced here especially when the basic condition which Karna satifies was hardly the case with Arjuna .. Just put yourself in Karnas position. Is it true or not. He also never endorsed Duryodhan's and Shakuni's treachery and preffered combat as a means to trounce his counterpart. Mahabharat is the story of rivalry of brothers and how Krishna help Pandavas to win their rightful Kingdom. Karna angered by this retaliated in sort and Arjuna's chariot bared moved a few inches and to this Krishna shouted "Baley Karna!" No. Compared to what the Pandavas did ( which was akin to rape of Draupadi ), Karna'a act paled in comparison ( it was akin to ogling at Draupadi ).. In fact, there are many shrines for Goddess Draupadi, spread in Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu and Karnataka. पराणतॊ = succeed One answer could be the mindset of the audience. Doesnt mean he didnt care. In it he very sincerely asks Karna to forgive him for all the things he had to go through in his life. People who want to know seem to understand the meaning or the spirit of the word. I know anyone can justify this ..saying that it was the prevalent norms and so on .. This means that Karna is invited in the Swayamvar. Still he was about to help draupadi....if krishna was even a moment late, karna would've killed Dushashan.I dont compare Karna and Krishna, they both understood why the other did what he did...they both respected each other immensely and so do I. Okay .. Another reason could be due to TRP (Television Rating Point). Abhimanyu's death is the only thing that goes against Karna. But seeing Karna, Draupadi loudly said, ‘I will not select a Suta for my lord.’ Then Karna, laughing in vexation and casting a glance at the Sun, threw aside the bow already drawn to a circle. Arjuna was not the one in the epic who spoke about his agony or what he was going through. Draupadi did not tell regret words to Karna, but she confessed during the exile in 13 year near some lake. Why did Draupadi not protest when she was told to marry five husbands instead of one? May be my mind is filled with doubts.For starters, they said Dhritarashtra was ambitious. Under this 'Upkar' of Duryodhana he remained loyal to him. One of the popular stories in our mythology is that of Lord Krishna and Draupadi, the wife Pandavas. Most scholars consider BORI’s Critical Edition as the most authentic version of Mahabharata. dharmashastra - the truth behind my dharma, Peri Peri Decent - Nando's, Phoenix Mall, Velachery, Chennai. Also read that few of them still are alive even today.Google Mahaavatar babaji kripacharya . What Krishna did was right and what Arjuna did was right in the given circumstances. O Duhsasana, seize the garments of the Pandavas and the robes of Draupadi and hand them over to Sakuni". Pranav - there is a lot of truth to what you've said.However, when you conclude that Karna epitomized loyalty and generosity, i think that is going overboard. Because if Draupadi does not reject Karna, then people do not sympathise with Karna. As above highlighted, it is clear that Karna attends Draupadi’s Swayamvar along with other kings including Duryodhana, Durvisaha, Durmukha, etc. Kunti is your mother and your father is Surya.” Suddenly, Karna broke down. If you've read about Vaishnaism or even Gita what Vishnu implies is that every Human is just a Human, as men throw away their desire and bonding to material things, we are one step closer to reaching gods. Many scholars having been amazed by the depth of their relationship have often suggested that there was more to Krishna Draupadi friendship than met the eye. Shishupala was in fact killed by Krishna during the Rajasuya Yaga. There is no statement to that effect in the Mahabharata. In a very tangential sense, I agree with The Chronicler. He had all the qualities of all pandavas combined. To gain a sense of Draupadi’s feelings towards Karna, let’s look at the relevant incidents. then Lord said no . Karna indeed will be remembered as a tragic hero. Another reason could be due to TRP (Television Rating Point). Who is the HERO of the Mahabharata ? MUST READ: How Karna died in Mahabharata? Thanks & do comment in case you see any discrepancy, These are just my understanding and I could be wrong. There is a common belief in South India that Draupadi was also an incarnation of Maha Kali. Sahadev? Karna's revenge cannot be justified but he had already payed for his sins during his lifetime. So where are they !!! (perhaps that is the reason why Modi, being knowledgeable in such matters, took his oath as PM during that period of the day) So, Krishna was merely mentioning that Draupadi along with other queens and princesses would come to Karna's coronation. Whoever has some knowledge of Mahabharata should be aware of the most popular version of this story. 5:10. And Kunti wanted war – as soon as Krishna comes to take his leave from her after the peace mission fails she sends a message through Krishna … we have sympathy for him. Nope. In this version, Karna is among the group of participating kings in the Swayamvar. Many people compare Krishna and Karna, in Mahabharata and quickly choose the side of Karna. Our audience is familiar with the popular version of the story in which Draupadi rejects Karna. compared to Karna's factual statement...5. And Karna during all instances even until the end had never thought about himself. Third Instance ::: No sight of Arjuna or anyone who can lift the bow , suddeny some Brahmins come ( obviously Arjuna ) and tries to enter the Swayamvar .. to which Duryodhana reports that 'Drishtadyumna himslef proclaimed that only Kings of Kings can marry his sister .. This is a Flickr badge showing public photos from. My point is we cannot ignore or object our Puranas, unless and until we have any solid proofs/ points to defend our statements. Not even when five children were born. When Krishna came to sue for peace, he spoke to Karna. Now again a question arises that if this is the case that why all the popular versions of Mahabharata & T.V. We do not know how badly hurt he was and who was responsible. Many people refer that to point out there was some thing between Draupadi and Karna. In these situation, even deceitful killing of Maharathis can be justified. Well in all of the people there, only Karna was the one who stood up to help Draupadi, but she couldnt say a word to him and he misinterpreted this. He tells him "win her for me, my friend" so she would be … When Karna’s turn comes, Draupadi stops him from participating in the contest saying that he is a Sutaputra (or Sutputra). बटु मात्रेण = Brahmana In early days (Mahabharatha time) it was not uncommon to praise the opponent for a move well done - but hatred blinds your judgment and once that happens, you are blinded to the basics of etiquette. कर्ण = Karna But Karna's son was the first to die in the war. That, he was able to be that good in spite of such difficult circumstances, is what I feel makes him the most admired character in Mahabharata. Because if we don’t understand our own books in the correct manner, then who does. Remember no one really won the war in the end. Arjuna rescued them. Karna, the noble one, the virtuous one, the charitable one, the son of the Sun God himself, had a life which seemed to be one long suffering. He did not ignore Draupadi. Caste system has arisen in the current Yug, i.e., Kali Yug. Karna was already killed 5 times before; you just finished off an already dying prey".1) When Indra asked for his armour2) When Kunti asked for the wish of Karna not killing anyone else but Arjuna3) When Parasuram cursed karna that he will forget the mantras to invoke astras4) When a sage cursed him that his chariot will be stuck in mud and his charioteer abandoned him at that juncture.5)When Krishna disguised as a brahmana asks for Karna's punyas (good deeds) as a gift - this is because Karna will not die on the battlefield because Lady Dharma will be protecting him from all harm/that mortal shot from Arjuna's bow - karna becomes impenetrable at that point and therefore unconquerable - Krishna takes away that from him and then Karna is killed.Now the interesting point to note here is:When Karna is almost dead/dying - Krishna is so pleased with Karna because even at that point, he did not refuse to donate - as far as Karna was concerned nothing belonged to him - Austerity - that is the foremost principle which a brahman should adhere to.So when Krishna asked Karna for his wishes, Karna's wishes were:1) When he dies on the battlefield, his real mother (kunti) should be informed and she should cry for his death for the whole world to hear his true heritage/lineage - he was denied this opportunity in life, at least let it be granted in death.2)If because of his orientation on the battle (alignment with the Kauravas), he is to suffer the process of rebirth - he wanted to be born as a brahman in a worthy family - the reasoning was, that the one thing that he could not do when he was Karna was provide Anna Dhaana - giving away food to the poor - because people did not want to eat the food fed by a person of questionable lineage.The most impressive part in this is, that when people are dying - they usually wish for either a protraction of life or for easing of suffering and the irony is that Karna asked for those just as any other person would do: He wanted to ease his suffering (not from wounds) but from shame he had to go through all his life of being a son of a charioteer and he wanted a continuation in life so that he can do the one thing that was denied to him in his previous birth - The ability to donate food.Karna was the only person to whom Krishna revealed one of his many forms - the form where he sits on Garuda!Karna was indestructible - and therefore had to be "put down" in an indirect way - if not for all other stories in Mahabharatha - one of them should suffice:Arjuna and Karna were engaged in a mon-a-mono combat and Arjuna hit Karna's chariot with an arrow, which dislodged karna's chariot by a hundred paces. In BORI’s version, Karna takes part in the Swayamvar but failed in the task. I guess the term ' Bhikshaa' was a complement to Draupadi ..!!! In this section, Vaishampayana says that Jishnu (or Arjuna) get up from the group of Brahmanas to take part in Draupadi’s Swayamvar when all the kings gave up and failed in the task. But because with all of this, Karna still sided with the untruth or adharma. I am not so happy with the outcome of Mahabharat. I quote the passage from Mahabarath only to prove that Karna's hatred for the Pandavas was so huge that it clouded his every judgement.Krishna showed clearly that he too is capable of deceit, to achieve the ultimate goal. Note , he was indisguise at that time & hence could not even reveal his kingship ...4. It is one of the most debated topics since it involves Draupadi Whom Krishna mentions in his speech to Karna while offering the royal crown of the Kuru kingdom. It is none of them . As the conversation between the five Pāṇḍavas below shows, they had developed feelings for Draupadī sometime during or after the archery contest so it's possible the backstory that 'Kuntī mistakes Draupadī for alms and then orders them to share' was invented later to justify five men marrying the same woman which was forbidden at the time. Hope this helps. Karna, in fact, abused Draupadi in the Kuru court, called her a “bandhaki”, meaning a prostitute, and instigated Dushshsasana to disrobe her. Is it Krishna , or , Arjuna , or Bheeshma ? Related Reading: Karna’s Love Letter To Draupadi: It Is You Who Defines Me The Most. Somewhere I read that this was necessary and part of leela by Krishna. I have read many tales of indestructible forms of humans eventually falls at the hands of Vishnu. Where is Yudhistir's wisdom visible in that? Arjun spared Karnas life in two battles.1.When karna, and Duryodhanas army stole king Viraats cow.Arjuna defeated all of them alone without krishna.2.When Durodhana Karna were defeated and captured by Gandharav Chitrarath. startv.in. Each and every character in this epic has some good qualities and some flaws. Lord Krishna praised Karna even during the battle between Arjuna and Karna. Here's the most important conversation between Karna and Sri Krishna that is an eye opener - Mahabharata the Epic of Epics has some beautiful aspects of … Moreover, Krishna very well knows the reason behind her having five husbands (Lord Shiva's boon etc.). There is a song in that "Ullathil nalla ullam" sung by Krishna disguised as a old man when Karna lies dying against his chariot's wheels. Though I would think a person of Karna's nature and stature should definitely not have joined in killing of Abhimanyu. Svayamvara: The first interaction between Draupadi and Karna is during her svayamvara. Second Instance : During the Sywayamvar , all the kings tryout but ( obviously) even fail to lift the bow .... and so does Duryodhana .. Now Comes Karna .. Some passages from BORI’s critical edition and their meaning which proves whether Draupadi rejects Karna or not: धृष्टद्युम्न उवाच|| Nevertheless, if you got time, patience and willingness to know about 'Draupadi', you can visit my blog and comment. Even Yudhistra never stopped his brothers from insulting Karan when he was supposed to be dharmaraj. I am aware that you long for me. Long before Pandavas were into the picture, Draupadi sought Krishna. They discovered during their research that the popular rejection sequence in which “Draupadi rejects Karna” appears only in the newer versions of the manuscripts. Oh please!Did you know that in the original story she doesn't say anything? When he learned the truth about Arjuna, he didnt hate him..but a true warrior never goes back on his words. Hare Krsna TV - ISKCON Desire Tree 5,789 views. - Arjuna was angered at this compliment and lamented to Krishna in anger and said "You have never complimented to any of my heroid deeds but here you're complimenting an enemy who is out here to kill me??" OK guys...so much debate has been made on this. Thus the popular story that in which “Draupadi rejects Karna” is later added to the narrative. Krishna comes to Hastinapura on his peace trials. Shastra means 'secret' or 'knowledge'. परमुखै : = foremost The village is named KONDAL, Mayiladuthurai Taluk, Nagapattinam District, Nidur P.O, Tamil Nadu. Lets not debate about who was right and who was wrong. We all know that 'KRISHNA' was the reincarnation of vishnu... and like all reincarnations this one too had a purpose.. what we all know is that he was born to kill his uncle 'KANSA'.. but thats not totally true.. Krishna was born to reduce the no of SHATRIYAS.. as most of them were immortal and hence there was no balance.. lot of them were unjust. Draupadi insuled Karna during her swayamvara. i agree with you CK, people do fail to see the injustice he served on otehrs - but why i admire him is not ocz he is fault less or he is right - but coz he had teh spirit to fight, to back his friend when he knew that he will never succeed - who on his right mind will think that he have got a chance againist krishna? Why ?also could you write what Maan Draupadi replied to Karna afetr getting refusal answer from the Lord Sri krishna . Duryodhana as bad as he is portrayed, was the only one who gave Karna the respect he deserved, unlike Bheem and Draupadi eho insulted Karna because he was a sut-putra. सुकुण्डलश्चित्रसेनः सुवर्चाः कनकध्वजः | नन्दको बाहुशाली च कुण्डजो विकटस्तथा ||३|| Krishna wanted the war, he had promised to ensure it happens to Draupadi. – SECTION CLXXXIX. This clearly evident when he donates the fruits of all his good deeds including this one. Seeing Arjuna's skill ...Drupada builds an elaborate plan involving handing over Draupadi to Arjuna so that he can use Arjuna as a leverage against Drona . Then Pandu did another selfish thing. Now, when a crown prince was treated as such throughout, and suddenly demoted, resentment is natural in the mind of Dhritrashtra. What Karna did was right. One of the shrines, where She is a Grama-Devatha and Kula-Devatha to many, is located in one of the small villages of Tamil Nadu. If he does then, is he failed in the task? He knew draupadi had wished for 5 qualities in her husband, which were seen one in each of the pandavas... thats why she had to marry 5 men.. This critical edition will contain the oldest shlokas, thus removing the part which is later added to it. He even admired Arjuna's abilities...was proud of his little brother, but he swore to kill arjuna...that is the only reason he let other 4 pandavs live and not all five.Karna's story is not just about his greatness and story of how was he wronged....but its also a really sad story of how such a great man fell.Even Ashwatthama was an awesome man...fate just had them on the wrong side in battle field. It contains all kinds of sheds. If krishna wanted he could have stopped the mahabharata, but he didnt.1. Two characters that stand out in Mahabharat are those of Karna and Bheeshma. But they also did some wrong thing which were against the Kshatiya law of that time. Just to add to his arguments - when Yudhishtra laments at Krishna was blinding him to the fact that Karna was indeed his brother and used him to kill Karna, Krishna laughs it off and says - "why do you keep blaming yourself as if you killed Karna? karna is man of his word2.he never afraid of his death even though he knew he is going to die3.If he wants he can be the king but he decided to be a friend U honestly belief that draupathi is pativratha where in the hell or in heaven or anywhere did u see a women marries his husbands 4 brothers well i havent except here In mahabharath arjuna had the support of krishna,lord hanuman,during the war but karna fought alone with all three and he was still killed unfarelywhat makes u think that arjuna is greater than karna. No . 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