Though Gogeta probably has more raw power. Furthermore, Full power SSJ Broly couldn’t even land a single finger on Gogeta once he used SSB. Report rule breaking and leave rule enforcement to the mods. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: Find a flair you like, click it, and send the message it brings you to exactly as-is. Jiren is confirmed stronger than Belmod, there’s no confirmation on where Belmod ranks among the rest of the GoDs, Beerus could still be stronger. We encourage the upvoting of all relevant content and have a wide definition of what's acceptable. And even though Gogeta Blue can give Jiren a legit challenge in his base form, he gets completely outclassed against LB. "Your Favorite/Least Favorite" character threads are not allowed due to lack of discussion these types of threads generate. Be nice and we'll respond in kind. By TOP universe busting isn't even that impressive. In the anime, the emphasis for Jiren's strength was that he was so powerful that a God of Destruction who was stronger than Beerus could not defeat him. Beerus' Hakai won't be landing on both Goku and Jiren cause of their massively superior reaction speeds. Jiren in his base form is already GoD tier and his final form well exceeds any GoD. To submit a battle, click the Goku vs Superman (or Doom vs Vader) button above. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. I can see Gogeta defeating the other team, especially with the help of Beerus. I thought there were a couple moments where he was but was stopped. The feat you are talking is a space-time warping feat from what I can see, it is pretty impressive but Majin Buu did a similar thing way back in the Buu Arc (althought that dimension was already connected to Earth), but this time is much more casual too. and how Beerus was finessing multiple gods of destruction at once in the manga, I would say it’s fairly obvious. Those aren't even impressive though.. SSJG Goku clashing with Beerus was threatening the Universe in the same way. unknowingly downplay. Not saying I agree but people like to bring up the point that Kefla could have killed UI Goku, and while yes this is a fully developed ultra instinct that is leaps and bounds over his previous version, a fusion between Goku and Vegeta would also be leaps and bounds above Kefla especially post ToP fusion between the two. After all Beerus needs to be more powerful Gogeta for Gogeta to be unable to resist his hakai. Hakai has shown to be negated by being stronger, this was shown by Frieza, Goku and Vegeta. Fusion also allowed Goten and trunks to fight way above their individual level that was a significantly bigger boost than any transformation. But the fact is, even taking that into consideration, Jiren was set up as someone even a God of Destruction could not beat, and then got a power up on top of that. In reality Beerus’ actual power is something they’ve kept ambiguous so that when they do use him they can say that he was always that strong at full power so there’s no asspull, it also seems very unlikely that if Beerus was ever surpassed by Goku that they’d make such a little deal like they did (yes UI was impressive and all that but no statements were made confirming strength and Beerus was most likely just impressed Goku achieved such a form). remember the diffrence between ssj 3 goku and ssjg goku? It might not have specifically said he was stronger than Beerus, but his reputation and displayed power should say enough. [–]armchair_science 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (3 children). we have never seen beerus at full power but according to the manga him and quitela are strongest of the 12, ultra instinct mastered was implied to have surpassed beerus in a shonen jump magazine but that was never fully executed in the actual episode. Jiren before he went Limit Breaker was already stronger than Belmod, who might not be as strong as Beerus, but it still says alot. "Gogeta!" C. Ultra instinct doesn’t make you untouchable even the completed version as evidenced by MUI Goku vs LB Jiren. @alextheboss: Destruction energy probably won't really do much. SSJB Gogeta is only “possibly stronger than Beerus”Tries citing a movie that doesn't have complete 100% compatibility with neither the Anime nor Manga and doesn't even get the fact right; it was Broly, not Gogeta. Yeah but the manga at least seems more consistent to debate in many aspects (like the shockwave feat, which is much more clear im the manga than in the anime in my opinion), but debating the anime is fine too. can earth ( marvel ) survive a a tyranid invasion, 3 minmaxed Skyrim stealth archers vs the sly cooper trilogy. ... TC always insists SSB Fusions are weaker as a whole in the franchise and REREAD the title. Rendered by PID 4451 on r2-app-056d814da82db5a71 at 2020-12-24 01:58:11.803593+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: FR. MUI Goku vs Gogeta. Instead of the GoD battle royale, the anime had an exhibition match between the two weakest universes, U7 and U9 (the one with the dog trio). ssj gogeta was already >> ssb goku and vegeta. As for MUI Goku and SSB Gogeta I think MUI Goku can take it because of his speed and reaction time which is pretty much the best we've seen in Dragon Ball yet. So I’ll ask again in case I wasn’t being clear last time do you have any feats that suggest that Beerus is capable of erasing the likes of SSB Gogeta? This is not headcanon, we have statements that matter here. They were seriously injuring each other and would've destroyed both U6 and U7 as collateral if the Angels hadn't stepped in. For more information click here. We only have a comparison … Team 1 with Gogeta has the MVP. [–]CantStopTheRob 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children). I don’t remember seeing that in the movie (though it’s been a while). Beerus and Champa showed that just by fighting the universe was going to be destroyed. Same with Champa. Or a fusion with Ultra Instinct. Not to mention, that Beerus would need to go through Whis, Zeno's guards, then the Grand Priest before he'd even have a chance to face off against Zeno. Goku only became on the same level as Beerus once he got UI. Within a minute, /u/WWWtron will have assigned you your shiny new flair. [–]Galaxy_Megatron 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (13 children). No one expects you to be a genius when it comes to every aspect of every character. We were given literal, direct statements to it. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. @sup3rn0va: the clash only happened because goku could control his ki hitting beerus, not raw power. Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta vs Ultra Instinct Goku. The only thing ultra instinct has over beerus is speed and the auto dodge hax, even then jiren was able to bypass that for a moment due to his strength being absolute and all that shit. Goku and Vegeta are also implied to at least know just how much of a gap is between them and Beerus back in Anime RoF since they both cucked down at the mere thought of facing him and have almost faced sleepy Beerus' unrestrained attacks. Goku has stated in the movie that Broly maybe even more powerful than Beerus which should place Broly at the realm of the gods destruction and Gogeta absolutely stomped him with a smile on his face. Spoilers - : [Text Text Text](#spoil "Hidden text"), Mobile-Friendly Spoilers - How to input: [Spoil](/s "text"), MegaMeta - Compilation of Approved [Meta] Posts, Character of the Week/Team of the Month Archive. MUI Goku is beyond Gogeta. Is Gogeta strong enough to take out the GoD? Don't see why Gogeta couldn't/wouldn't learn UI during the fight. [–]armchair_science 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). I could see team 1 taking Gogeta against Goku and Jiren agaisnt Beerus. After all he wouldn’t even dare confront the Grand Priest when his existence was at stake in the ToP instead he tried to ask Whis to bribe his father to ensure his survival. Beerus’ only two feats with the move have been against two characters who are fodder compared to him. Jiren sacrificed and sacrificed every year, more and more of himself. More like he is scared to death of them and is incapable of doing anything to them or at least that’s the case as far as Whis and his dad and Zeno are concerned. Ohh and Beerus ain’t no weak link here erase that idea especially while bloodlust with no Hakai restriction. VIEW OLDER REPLIES. Yes. [–]TheShrubberyDemander 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (14 children). [–]armchair_science 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). Even in the Broly Movie, Beerus was on Earth, just chillin'. While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. Fusion is generally> the strongest non fused character. Send us a message we'd love to help you with your thread. re: Ultra Instinct Gogeta vs Whis Whis sleeps on the likes of Broly and Beerus so if he puts any effort into the UI Gogeta fight at all it would be low-diff. Do Goku or Jiren have a counter to Hakai? Three weakest, they had three gods in that one. [–]SSG_Goten 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (4 children). re: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue quote GohanAntifan93 Gogeta Blue > Super Saiyan Full Power Broly > Super Saiyan Gogeta >Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku > Jiren > Ultra Instinct Goku Be nice. The only way to prove it is by comparing the power up diffrences. This more or less establishes the fact that MUI Goku would be stronger than Beerus. Mastered UI Goku overpowered Jiren, it would completely destroy Kefla if they fought again. nonetheless every else is fine. [–]armchair_science 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (9 children). Gogeta >>>>> UI Goku > Brolly >=< Jiren >=< Beerus It’s ambiguous between the last 3 however UI is stronger than all 3 but is close. So he does have an actual scale, thinking about it. Beerus shouted. Meruem (Hunter X Hunter) Vs Chainsaw Man (Chainsaw Man). No, never, not even remotely close. He was likely at full power when he fought Champa after the baseball game. Weaker characters than them have resisted some form of Hakai. [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child). Whis makes another statement in the anime saying that Mastering Ultra Instinct would result in Goku/ Vegeta surpassing Beerus. Jiren was set up as a person who has surpassed the GoD of his own universe and with no real statements or feats as to how that GoD ranks with the rest and could have been the weakest GoD for all we know. UI Goku and Jiren should be above Beerus as of now due to current statements, but Borly was hyped to be stronger than Jiren in promotional material, and he has the feats to back him being Jiren tier up, and Gogeta has the clear advantage over him. Comments consisting of a single image or gif to provoke drama or as a non-responsive reply to the thread. He GODSTOMPED a beerus/mui goku level character while suppressed. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. This isn't his full power and is a showing of feat that jiren nor goku have. [–]Galaxy_Megatron 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (15 children). Check out our Official Submission Template for a few suggestions on how you can structure your battle with additional conditions and formatting to make it more interesting. Zeno is a being who can erase all of existence in the blink of an eye. Limit Breaker Jiren should be handily above Beerus, especially since he was giving Goku a hell of a fight when he mastered a technique Beerus couldn't. I think beerus and gogeta overpower jiren as he tries to tank something and they eventually tag Goku. B. Whis has a complete mastery over his ultra instinct. The penalty for breaking the rules of this sub, contributing to spam, trolling, or purposefully making things more difficult for the mods may include being banned. He can dodge all of Gogeta's attacks, and he can one shot him with Hakai. 1 Can't Defeat: Krillin. If we go by anime canon, Gogeta is probably far stronger than Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken and Evolved Super Saiyan Blue since Goku and Vegeta resorted to fusion to fight Broly instead of using any of these forms, alongside with those statements. Ultra Instinct vs Fusion!? Comments that are a few words and contribute no actual discussion ('lol' or '___ stomps'). I'm not sure what the anime equivalent to that was. Unsure of a good way to make your fight more interesting than just "X Character vs. Y Character"? that statement was replaced by beerus was " What an Unbelievable guy", so if beerus is in mui goku level and that goku defeated jiren than its pretty obvious that beerus> jiren. I’m gonna say Goku and Jiren wins base on feats and power implication and skills, Beerus and Gogeta By Hype. See more ideas about dragon ball, dragon ball z, gogeta and vegito. There's some dispute about translation, but I think "probably" is the correct term used. Give ssj gogeta who already is ssb goku and vegeta the boost all the way up to ssb and he stomps. Oh hell yes. Well, Kefla was struggling with regular UI Goku. Factually Jiren is stronger than Belmod yes but aside from that everything else is headcanon or theory until proven otherwise. Goku said Broly is probably stronger than Beerus during their final meeting. Meta posts, multi-part tournaments, and other non-conventional posts require mod approval. Could Santa convince Thanos to not rid of half of the population? See this post for details. Team 2 still wins. I have no doubt that a bloodlusted beerus would just start erasing everyone and everything including the universe he's in. @takenstew22: Considering Vegeta alone is stronger than Toppo, and how Goku said full power Broly is “maybe” stronger than Beerus, and how Beerus was finessing multiple gods of destruction at once in the manga, I would say it’s fairly obvious. Ssj vegito was massively stronger than potential unleashed Gohan. The following post types and comments have been deemed low-quality by the community and may be removed. Don't downvote. [–]Galaxy_Megatron 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children). Always admit it up front if you're unfamiliar with a character. It's really simple. However, he saw Jiren's full power, and a huge power up on top of that. His shirt wouldn't even come off. [–]KingPWNinater 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (5 children). And Just because SSJ Broly couldn’t touch Whis doesn’t mean that Beerus is unteachable. [–]Jamano-Eridzander 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). He wasn't even scared by Broly's power, to the point where he just chilled with Bulla all day. This now includes "You vs" posts as of 29/10/2018; details on why are included in this modpost. Vegeta got a new powerful transformation that's about equal to Blue Kaioken x20, and he used his most powerful attack against Toppo to take him out, so I wouldn't say he's far below Beerus at all. Gogeta was pushed to Blue by Broly, who MIGHT BE stronger than Beerus based only on the power Goku saw of Beerus. He doesn't know exactly when they're coming, but ever since his second run in with Harry and Marv, his house in constantly boobytrapped and he's spent 28 years honing the art of being: HOME ALONE. And there you go. We issue warnings if we believe the user means well but we are not obligated to do so. @thekappa78: eh, it was not supposed to mean gogeta ssj > Jiren or UI lol. As for Broly, I feel he'd be "At least Low 2-C, possibly 2-C" rather than definitively 2-C, since he was stomped by Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta, who is debatably in the same tier as Ultra Instinct Goku, and is probably stronger than Beerus. Jiren, in the anime, is confirmed stronger than Beerus. Beerus may be the weakest, but he has the most experience, has partial UI as well, and is arguably the most versatile and has the advantage of destruction energy. UI boost is also huge but not as big as from ssj to ssb. it was referring mui with the text being " Gokus hair and aura starts to glow SILVER. Not an easy match up for Gogeta. He can dodge all of Gogeta's attacks, and he can one shot him with Hakai. He wasn't even scared by Broly's power, to the point where he just chilled with Bulla all day. [–]Jamano-Eridzander 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]Goku4869 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago* (0 children). and join one of thousands of communities. Since Goku himself was nowhere near Beerus’ level of power even at his strongest form at the time which was SSBKKX20 and we both saw what happened when that form of Goku clashed with someone who was stated to be at the realm of the gods of destruction needless to say he didn’t fair very well. Poll Gogeta and Beerus vs MUI Goku and LB Jiren (59 votes) Team 1 68% . Comments that are memes for the sake of memes will be removed as well. It MIGHT have even surpassed beerus", the picture doesnt mean anything. Not to mention, that Beerus would need to go through Whis, Zeno's guards, then the Grand Priest before he'd even have a chance to face off against Zeno. It makes no difference when going up against Jiren now. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 4451 on r2-app-056d814da82db5a71 at 2020-12-24 01:58:11.803593+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: FR. And has Beerus never used his full power in the anime? But we've never had an accurate scale for it. Was that confirmed? If Goku and Jiren manage to win before that team 2 takes it. Beerus said "now we're getting somewhere" about Gogeta, who Broly couldn't keep up with, showing Gogeta is starting to reach the realms of Beerus' power. Beerus is unquantifiable, but it would be a safe bet to assume he's below Jiren. Broly didn’t reach full power until his fight with SSJ Gogeta. And we've seen him do it with extreme ease. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Proof that Beerus is powerful enough to one shot SSB Gogeta with hakai? Apologies go a long way if you mess up. You can't call it headcanon, even if you want to question how strong Whis's conviction was there. Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta, formed save the entire DBS Multiverse from jeopardy. BattleSSB Gogeta vs Beerus (self.whowouldwin). They don't individually scale to their combined power output unless you mean Beerus's power is equal to Beerus's and … [–]SSG_Goten 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). And it pissed me off that they didn't have their unique stuff. Downvoting will never be allowed on this sub. Hakai was never used on frieza or goku it was just a small ammount of GoD energy that was overcome. Beerus didn't even deny it, he just says it was only an arm wrestling competition. 0. Beerus never used his full power in the anime? @takenstew22: Well it wasn’t pretty evident to Goku that Broly was stronger than Beerus. this feet itself is already impressive enough for gogeta soloing this due to him being suppressed is already well above beerus and jiren so him going all out makes it a stomp. You can be banned for a first offense. Present Zamasu ( who was weaker than even SSJ2 Goku.). He was even ready to erase Goku at one point, without the need to even power up. You're allowed to repost but look to your left first. I think it's pretty evident at this point that Broly is stronger than Beerus. That should say just how good Jiren's reputation is. As for Gogeta learning UI during the fight, it's too uncertain to consider. If asked, you must provide evidence for your claims or drop the argument. Posts with a clear political or social agenda. If you're going to repost try to broaden or change the discussion to keep it fresh. If you do not properly flair your post, or reply incorrectly to a post because you didn't know the difference between 'Battle' and 'Scan-Battle', you agree to forfeit to us your soul in perpetuity or another soul of equal or greater value. and if you add beerus here who has million+ years exp, Hakai and also incomplete ultra instinct than team 1 absolute destroys team 2 with mid to low diff, the only problem team 1 will be facing is mui gokus dodge hacks. Brolly who is stated to be stronger or close to Beerus in power, got treated like a child having a tantrum by Gogeta. in the V jump magazine it was stated that mastered ultra instinct goku MIGHT have surpassed beerus. A.Whis is way more powerful than Beerus is. I think team 2 can take it mainly because of Jiren. Joke posts, or posts that are primarily humurous in nature, are not allowed. Meaning Broly, and Jiren are non factors in this fight as neither of them have any hax. 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